I really hate myself while writing this but need to write it to give an honest view point.
I am really disappointed with almost all of my Shia friends who support this war. I thought there must be some good significant number of Shias in Pakistan who don’t blindly toe the line of that Jerk Khemenei or Seestani but here it seems its not the case and almost all are determined to push not only their selves in this more war mess and resulting terrorism but also others too. Almost all my Shia friends cannot see the fact they are being used as a fuel for this war by Pakistani and other pro-war establishments including their beloved Khomenist regime in Iran.
I also criticize sunni or deobandi or ahl-e-hadith or other sects and social classes for the hate based crap some of their leaders or other people do (LeJ or ST or Mumtaz Qadri or Malik Ishaq types) but a clear thing which disappoints me is that others have broad range of views and diversity at extremes (almost all against innocent killings except few mad people) but for my almost all Shia friends it looks that they are toeing some kind of deep rooted hate based agenda against others with no room for reconciliation.
They need to know no anti-war on terror person supports suicide attacks on Hazara or on other Shia communities but what I have seen is that almost all (not all) of my Shia friends feel really happy when they know about deaths of people including children from other sects in tribal areas, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan or any where else. Even in Pakistan, they don’t really sympathize with anyone else but merely use one majority sect like Barelvi against the others like Deobandi or Ahl-e-Hadith. The trend is not just in religious maniacs but also evident in so called liberal or moderates.
I have always criticized army for this war mess but those who think they are being victimized should also see where they are going or what they are becoming in blind hatred.
They are trying to eliminate any space for those who want peaceful resolution of this war issue as probably it doesn’t fit into their hate based agenda to settle some centuries old good for nothing historical issues. Anti-war on terror people always condemn LeJ or other groups but unfortunately my Shia friends almost never condemn aerial bombings or military’s use of heavy conventional or even chemical weapons against other sects which is a crime even in worldly laws.
I don’t have any sympathies now for those who want innocent killings on both sides to satisfy their hatred for other sects and social classes. my only concern is those unrelated (who do not support this war or resulting terrorism) people who die as collateral damage but unfortunately there is no way to discriminate one from the other in aerial or suicide bombings which Shia groups want when they support this war.
May the wrath of Allah be on those from both sides of the conflict (Army, TTP, MWM,LeJ,SUC,SIC, PPP, ST,PMLN,MQM or others) who support these mass murders either through aerial/drone/military bombings or through suicide attacks.
Even India never does aerial bombings (drone or jet) on civilian populated areas despite almost 2 dozens of insurgencies.
I pray for the hardest wrath of Allah on those who consider innocent dead kids as an unavoidable or tolerable or necessary collateral damage.
I still pray for the blind followers of this corrupt system to get on the path of justice and peace but it seems we are going for complete self-destruction.
If the hatred is about religion or sects then at least while supporting aerial bombings, we should remember what the holy book says:
“O ye who believe! Be steadfast witnesses for Allah in equity, and let not hatred of any people seduce you that ye deal not justly. Deal justly, that is nearer to your duty. Observe your duty to Allah. Lo! Allah is Informed of what ye do.” [Al-maeda ,8]
Fake liberals (In actual sectarian and social class fascists) and troop worshipers often say that there are no other options than war. They forget the fact that their decade old war is the main reason behind the formation of TTP type groups which were not there before this war.
There are still many options other than war like:
a) First taking back bases from USA and come out of this war.
b) Take tribes and groups who are willing for talks on board (after the main motivation of fighting ends due to Pakistan’s coming out of this war)
c) After tribes and groups who are willing to talk come on board for peace then deal with the groups who are not willing to talk after looking into their individual motivations.
d) Once it is established that a group has some criminal or sectarian agenda and they are not willing for peace then force is the right option but not like aerial bombings or other methods where civilians become collateral damage. War crimes are needed to be avoided for sure and tribes should be taken into confidence before any activity like targeted action.
e) People like Musharraf should be brought to justice for putting Pakistan into this mess and most importantly for using sectarian and social class fault lines to forward war agenda and strengthen his rule.
f) Musharraf gang still supporting his policies from within establishment should be removed.
g) We also need to see which groups from settled areas side or from government or politics or even media are determined to push Pakistan into more war mess for their sectarian or social class interests or for the interests of their pay masters.
h) A truth and reconciliation process should take place as a lot of hatred is there on both sides against each due to aerial bombings, drones, suicide attacks, missing persons or other transgressions from both sides.
It seems war propaganda machine has won and now mercenary occupied armed forces of Pakistan are going for a full scale offensive against tribal populations to hunt down few alleged terrorists. According to various reports, several dozens including women and children have been killed in aerial bombings by Pakistan Airforce.
These aerial bombings are a victory for enemies of Pakistan and its people. World is making progress in space tech, energy resource development, education etc and improving the lives of their people but Pakistan is stuck an imported war.
I don’t care much about the deaths of willing combatants from both sides (Army or TTP) and now losing sympathies for the deaths of people related to sectarian groups chanting for more war as it is their own choice to jump in the mess and become a fuel for this war. My real concern is about the lives of innocent civilians who die as collateral damage.
Terrorism is not a justifiable think but to go for same policies which produced TTP or suicide attacks in the first place is something ridiculous.
So called civil society is divided on the issue due to social class and sectarian differences which Musharraf regime exploited well for the war.
I hope we can have joint protests against military operations and suicide attacks. Unfortunately what I have seen is that these anti-terrorist attack protests turn into a war propaganda tool and this war is one of the main reasons behind this TTP or suicide attacks. Before demanding for more war to control suicide attacks or TTP, people need to know that there were not TTP or suicide attacks before this war.
Sheikh Hasina’s hate based nationalism and Imran Khan address in Pakistani assembly on Qader Molla issue
Recent reports of angry protests in Pakistan against a resolution in Pak assembly on Qader Molla’s judicial murder seems to have pissed off the tyrant Sheikh Hasina and her hyper nationalist supporters. According to reports, the angry protesters burned Pakistani flag, tried to enter embassy and even burned the effigies of PTI head Imran Khan.
It seems many Bangladeshis, mainly from Awami League support base, are so blind in their hatred that they cant even try to see the opinion of others on the issue. At least try to listen before acting like blind nationalists.
Imran Khan in principle always opposed military operation of 1971 by Pak army. The resolution was mainly against the way they are conducting the trial in Bangladesh through kangaroo courts and using anti-Pakistan sentiments. If Sheikh Hasina wants to throw Bangladesh into a bloody civil war to promote her election campaign then its her issue and the issue of Bangladesh. No one is undermining the right of Bengladeshis to play politics. The only thing is that not everyone can remain silent on political murders of Muslims through unjust and fake trials. Most of the people who are criticizing Molla’s political murder,including Imran, also opposed military operation of 71 . Pak army did a lot of bad things in 71, the better way is to go for a fair trial which will also look into what Mukti Bahni did with non Bangladesh supporters in 71.
It seems Bangladeshis are stuck into the past and their government is trying to cover up their failures by using anti Pakistan sentiments. There are bad things which happened in the past, the options are either to remain stuck in them or to move on like Nelson Mandela and South Africa did. It seems Sheikh Hasina wants BD to remain stuck in the bad past so that she can control their minds through hate.
Also try to see what non Pakistani key Muslim leaders like Turkey’s PM Erdogan are saying:
Recent statement by Pakistan Tehreek e Insaf, Imran Khan regarding Pak-India joint civil nuclear project on border is make some headlines in the news.
I think it’s not a bad idea but private sector should take the lead. It seems not everyone including people in PMLN or so called liberals like MQM are not happy with it and they are trying to show some security concerns regarding the project.
How scientifically uneducated people are that they cannot understand the difference between civil nuclear and military nuclear programs. He is talking about using the existing tech infrastructure in both countries for the betterment of the people like countries in Europe did after world wars when they built CERN or cooperated for other areas.
It is amazing that people who pushed Pakistan into this self-destructive imported ‘war on terror’ are criticizing a positive suggestion by someone who was warning Pakistanis about the negative consequences of jumping into the war, more than a decade ago.
He also talked about resolving the core issue of Kashmir, the cause which I strongly support, but not much focus on that by MQM or other pro-War groups who have been found working for foreign powers including USA or India on numerous occasions. As I pointed out previously that fake liberals can’t understand the meaning of equality based mutually beneficial relationships. They only know about master-slave or enemy-enemy relationships. Kashmir is core issue not just between India and Pakistan but the real party in the issue are Kashmiri people. Instead of using the issue for political point scoring or exploiting nationalist jingoism, we need serious steps towards peace in the region. I think if we can find people like Imran Khan on Indian side as well then we can have a good chance of peace in the region and justice based resolution of issues.
For many Pakistanis, it seems west means US and UK. For slave minded fake liberals, it seems good relations with west means acting like a bitch of UK and US governments.Even on drones issue, key NATO member like Germany is not on the same page with USA and it tried to distance itself from the issue but Pakistan never bothered to approach these countries to bring some sanity in their partners.
Why should Pakistan government do that when it is run by fake liberals, sectarian fascists and slave minds who are working as mercenary for US administration? Other countries also know that so they don’t bother to come out like they did on Syria or even North Korea which are run by two most oppressive and brutal regimes.
Pak government, army and fake liberals don’t seem to have any idea of having relationships other than master-slave or enemy-enemy relationship.
China and US/Japan/Taiwan have serious issues which can turn into potential military clashes but they still enjoy good people to people relationship, trade on equal terms, academic collaboration etc. Pakistan, despite acting as a slave and mercenary for US and UK never bothered to establish serious academic relationship or research collaborations in civil or military areas. In fact some big technology based industrial projects and technology transfer happened through China, Russia, France, Germany and other partners on equal cooperation basis but still our fake liberals and establishment cannot come out of their colonial past of serving UK or the power which replaced it after second world war i.e. USA.
Even in US or UK, Pakistani establishment only focuses on security related institutions and never bothered to understand broader opinion which also include anti-war, non-interventionist, non-corporatist or anti-military industrial complex groups.
But then again what benefit will it give to establishment which relies on mercenary services to corporatists sitting in White house or military industrial complex which runs Pentagon?
PTI and their allies in KPK are taking a great step to show their disapproval against drone bombings on innocent civilians which are also violations of Pakistan’s sovereignty.
They are going to block NATO supplies on 23rd November 2013 and will hold protests in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province in Pakistan and also they are taking part in anti-drone protests in UK .
We wish them great success in their noble cause and appeal justice loving people in the world especially in Pakistan to support the cause.
It’s not those who opposed this American led war are responsible for 50,000+ unfortunate deaths. Responsibility lies on those jumped into this mess.
It’s not those who opposed this American led war are responsible for 50,000+ unfortunate deaths.
Prime responsibility lies on the planners of this war and those are fighting as hired guns, no matter how much they glorify it.
Secondary responsibility lies on those who supported it for business interests or sectarian and social class prejudices.
Pro-war fake liberal scum backed by mercenary army which murdered or supported the murder of thousands of innocent civilians including kids are now using useless issues to diver the attention from drone and NATO supply issue.
I may not fully agree with Munawwar Hassan views on Hakim ullah or army martyr issues but people should be free to express their views and we need to come out of ‘troop worship’ and fascist mindset. What kind of society we want to live in where we cannot even question the policies of corrupt generals or cannot make harsh angry comments even after seeing people being droned or bombed with the help of these generals?
For me the status of shaheed or martyr is irrelevant when unarmed innocent civilians including kids are dying in this war and we are busy in discussing some comments about an army fighting American war. Leave the status of soldiers or Talibans to Allah and focus on saving innocent lives.
Recent comments by Ameer e Jamat e Islami Munawwar Hussan regarding the status of martyr for Hakeem ullah Mehsud or for Pakistani soldiers fighting this American corporatist war.
It seems that pro-war lobby in media and civil society are trying to use this martyr (shaheed) debate issue to undermine drones and NATO supply issue. ISPR and its mouth pieces are also active now to take advantage from this debate and to play nationalism card and other cards they play to exploit sectarian and social class differences based fault lines.
Considering army soldiers dying while fighting this American war against Afghanistan/Pakistan or Hakeem ullah’s status as a martyr or terrorist is as subjective as discussing Abu lulu (murderer of Umar r.a.) should have a shrine in Iran or not.
The need is to come out of this mess to give peace a chance. For me, status of shaheed for people dying fighting this war is less important than saving innocent lives of those who are dying due to drones /military operations and being classified as collateral damage or dying in resulting terrorism.
PTI, JI and other anti-war parties should focus on their plan to block NATO supplies on 20th November and keep up their pressure for ending this war and drone strikes.
USAID fame Sunni Ittehad Council (SIC) and Iranian poodles MWM joining hands against talks with Talibans. It gives some idea how things are going in the region especially Iraq and Afghanistan. Syria was just a trap set for rising Turkey and another way to exploit sectarianism in the region.
If Shias realize how harmful these Khomenists are for their interest then it can bring some chance of peace for them and others. If these corrupt Sunni Ittehad council guys start not to use sectarianism to gain monetarily or politically then they can do some good for others too.
Both are playing as puppets of USA/Iran and their slaves in army/agencies/politics to push Pakistan into more and more war mess.
Tehreek e Taliban Pakistan (TTP) are no saints and have committed too many transgressions against non-combatant populations but they are the result of this mess. This phenomenon of terrorism cannot be dealt properly if we do not address the root cause of this mess. Root causes are Pakistan army’s role of a mercenary organization for their client USA against Afghanistan and Pakistani tribes, Pakistan’s soil being used for NATO supplies to strengthen the occupation, Pakistani bases being used to occupy a neighboring country (also for drones) and finally one of the main root cause is the support to these wars and wrong actions provided by sectarian and social class fascists sitting in army, politics, media and civil society.
People need to learn that senseless bombings and operations have created most of these militants in the first place and continuing with this bullshit will only create more terrorism. But how can someone convince those who are blinded by sectarianism or dollars?
Do the designers of this war have any favorite sects or social classes?
The designers of this wars sitting in Washington surely make it look like a war between sufi vs non sufi or shia/barelvi vs deobandi/ahl e hadith/wahabi sects or between liberals and conservatives or moderates and extremists or between other social class groupsbut in actual they don’t share even a little bit of sympathy for anyone.
All they know is to exploit fault lines which they are doing. i agree that IK seems to be the only major leader who has some sort of idea what is going on with this war or in the region.
The unfortunate part is that their dollar slaves in Pakistan are also toeing their line despite seeing all the destruction. Another dangerous element of this war is Khomenist’s direct and indirect support which is also not helping the cause. They think they can go on for long with their sectarian imperialism but in actual they are destroying the future of not only Sunnis or others they don’t like but most importantly they are harming the interests of people they claim to represent i.e Shias in the region.
Its time to start acting like thinking humans not some sheep or insects. We need to come out of this self-destructive mode.