For many Pakistanis, it seems west means US and UK. For slave minded fake liberals, it seems good relations with west means acting like a bitch of UK and US governments.Even on drones issue, key NATO member like Germany is not on the same page with USA and it tried to distance itself from the issue but Pakistan never bothered to approach these countries to bring some sanity in their partners.
Why should Pakistan government do that when it is run by fake liberals, sectarian fascists and slave minds who are working as mercenary for US administration? Other countries also know that so they don’t bother to come out like they did on Syria or even North Korea which are run by two most oppressive and brutal regimes.
Pak government, army and fake liberals don’t seem to have any idea of having relationships other than master-slave or enemy-enemy relationship.
China and US/Japan/Taiwan have serious issues which can turn into potential military clashes but they still enjoy good people to people relationship, trade on equal terms, academic collaboration etc. Pakistan, despite acting as a slave and mercenary for US and UK never bothered to establish serious academic relationship or research collaborations in civil or military areas. In fact some big technology based industrial projects and technology transfer happened through China, Russia, France, Germany and other partners on equal cooperation basis but still our fake liberals and establishment cannot come out of their colonial past of serving UK or the power which replaced it after second world war i.e. USA.
Even in US or UK, Pakistani establishment only focuses on security related institutions and never bothered to understand broader opinion which also include anti-war, non-interventionist, non-corporatist or anti-military industrial complex groups.
But then again what benefit will it give to establishment which relies on mercenary services to corporatists sitting in White house or military industrial complex which runs Pentagon?
PTI and their allies in KPK are taking a great step to show their disapproval against drone bombings on innocent civilians which are also violations of Pakistan’s sovereignty.
They are going to block NATO supplies on 23rd November 2013 and will hold protests in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province in Pakistan and also they are taking part in anti-drone protests in UK .
We wish them great success in their noble cause and appeal justice loving people in the world especially in Pakistan to support the cause.
It’s not those who opposed this American led war are responsible for 50,000+ unfortunate deaths. Responsibility lies on those jumped into this mess.
It’s not those who opposed this American led war are responsible for 50,000+ unfortunate deaths.
Prime responsibility lies on the planners of this war and those are fighting as hired guns, no matter how much they glorify it.
Secondary responsibility lies on those who supported it for business interests or sectarian and social class prejudices.
Pro-war fake liberal scum backed by mercenary army which murdered or supported the murder of thousands of innocent civilians including kids are now using useless issues to diver the attention from drone and NATO supply issue.
I may not fully agree with Munawwar Hassan views on Hakim ullah or army martyr issues but people should be free to express their views and we need to come out of ‘troop worship’ and fascist mindset. What kind of society we want to live in where we cannot even question the policies of corrupt generals or cannot make harsh angry comments even after seeing people being droned or bombed with the help of these generals?
For me the status of shaheed or martyr is irrelevant when unarmed innocent civilians including kids are dying in this war and we are busy in discussing some comments about an army fighting American war. Leave the status of soldiers or Talibans to Allah and focus on saving innocent lives.
Recent comments by Ameer e Jamat e Islami Munawwar Hussan regarding the status of martyr for Hakeem ullah Mehsud or for Pakistani soldiers fighting this American corporatist war.
It seems that pro-war lobby in media and civil society are trying to use this martyr (shaheed) debate issue to undermine drones and NATO supply issue. ISPR and its mouth pieces are also active now to take advantage from this debate and to play nationalism card and other cards they play to exploit sectarian and social class differences based fault lines.
Considering army soldiers dying while fighting this American war against Afghanistan/Pakistan or Hakeem ullah’s status as a martyr or terrorist is as subjective as discussing Abu lulu (murderer of Umar r.a.) should have a shrine in Iran or not.
The need is to come out of this mess to give peace a chance. For me, status of shaheed for people dying fighting this war is less important than saving innocent lives of those who are dying due to drones /military operations and being classified as collateral damage or dying in resulting terrorism.
PTI, JI and other anti-war parties should focus on their plan to block NATO supplies on 20th November and keep up their pressure for ending this war and drone strikes.
USAID fame Sunni Ittehad Council (SIC) and Iranian poodles MWM joining hands against talks with Talibans. It gives some idea how things are going in the region especially Iraq and Afghanistan. Syria was just a trap set for rising Turkey and another way to exploit sectarianism in the region.
If Shias realize how harmful these Khomenists are for their interest then it can bring some chance of peace for them and others. If these corrupt Sunni Ittehad council guys start not to use sectarianism to gain monetarily or politically then they can do some good for others too.
Both are playing as puppets of USA/Iran and their slaves in army/agencies/politics to push Pakistan into more and more war mess.
Tehreek e Taliban Pakistan (TTP) are no saints and have committed too many transgressions against non-combatant populations but they are the result of this mess. This phenomenon of terrorism cannot be dealt properly if we do not address the root cause of this mess. Root causes are Pakistan army’s role of a mercenary organization for their client USA against Afghanistan and Pakistani tribes, Pakistan’s soil being used for NATO supplies to strengthen the occupation, Pakistani bases being used to occupy a neighboring country (also for drones) and finally one of the main root cause is the support to these wars and wrong actions provided by sectarian and social class fascists sitting in army, politics, media and civil society.
People need to learn that senseless bombings and operations have created most of these militants in the first place and continuing with this bullshit will only create more terrorism. But how can someone convince those who are blinded by sectarianism or dollars?
Do the designers of this war have any favorite sects or social classes?
The designers of this wars sitting in Washington surely make it look like a war between sufi vs non sufi or shia/barelvi vs deobandi/ahl e hadith/wahabi sects or between liberals and conservatives or moderates and extremists or between other social class groupsbut in actual they don’t share even a little bit of sympathy for anyone.
All they know is to exploit fault lines which they are doing. i agree that IK seems to be the only major leader who has some sort of idea what is going on with this war or in the region.
The unfortunate part is that their dollar slaves in Pakistan are also toeing their line despite seeing all the destruction. Another dangerous element of this war is Khomenist’s direct and indirect support which is also not helping the cause. They think they can go on for long with their sectarian imperialism but in actual they are destroying the future of not only Sunnis or others they don’t like but most importantly they are harming the interests of people they claim to represent i.e Shias in the region.
Its time to start acting like thinking humans not some sheep or insects. We need to come out of this self-destructive mode.
One of the best speeches in the history of National Assembly of Pakistan. In this Imran Khan covered topics ranging from war, economic losses, humanitarian losses, talks and blocking NATO supplies on 20th November.
According to media reports, USS Enterprise has been moved into Pakistani waters. It seems they are here to protect threaten Pakistani people so that they don’t go for options like Tunisia or Egypt. there are here with full support from govt. and military like they are doing drone attacks. they are here to protect there puppets in Rawalpindi and Islamabad.
Pakistani mercenary army is in their pockets and doing well, government is installed by them through NRO/Mushi safe-exit deal and they have other assets in Pakistan too.
People should stay strong and those who want a system of justice in the country should keep working for a free and just Pakistan.
US moves USS Enterprise into Pakistani waters
KARACHI – After failing to strike a deal on Nato supply with Pakistan, violating international laws the US has moved its USS Enterprise, the nuclear-powered aircraft carrier, into Pakistani territorial waters near Gawadar, media quoting sources said on Thursday.
“After the deployment of the aircraft in Pakistani sea the country’s security agencies are now investigating into the matter. The movement apparently shows the increasing interest of the US in Balochistan province of Pakistan,” sources said.
“The US has moved its biggest aircraft carrier 65 to 70 nautical miles away from Gawadar in the second week of June,” a well informed source told news-based website.
The USS Enterprise, which holds a crew of over 4,000, had taken part in several wars.