For many Pakistanis, it seems west means US and UK. For slave minded fake liberals, it seems good relations with west means acting like a bitch of UK and US governments.Even on drones issue, key NATO member like Germany is not on the same page with USA and it tried to distance itself from the issue but Pakistan never bothered to approach these countries to bring some sanity in their partners.
Why should Pakistan government do that when it is run by fake liberals, sectarian fascists and slave minds who are working as mercenary for US administration? Other countries also know that so they don’t bother to come out like they did on Syria or even North Korea which are run by two most oppressive and brutal regimes.
Pak government, army and fake liberals don’t seem to have any idea of having relationships other than master-slave or enemy-enemy relationship.
China and US/Japan/Taiwan have serious issues which can turn into potential military clashes but they still enjoy good people to people relationship, trade on equal terms, academic collaboration etc. Pakistan, despite acting as a slave and mercenary for US and UK never bothered to establish serious academic relationship or research collaborations in civil or military areas. In fact some big technology based industrial projects and technology transfer happened through China, Russia, France, Germany and other partners on equal cooperation basis but still our fake liberals and establishment cannot come out of their colonial past of serving UK or the power which replaced it after second world war i.e. USA.
Even in US or UK, Pakistani establishment only focuses on security related institutions and never bothered to understand broader opinion which also include anti-war, non-interventionist, non-corporatist or anti-military industrial complex groups.
But then again what benefit will it give to establishment which relies on mercenary services to corporatists sitting in White house or military industrial complex which runs Pentagon?
It’s not those who opposed this American led war are responsible for 50,000+ unfortunate deaths. Responsibility lies on those jumped into this mess.
It’s not those who opposed this American led war are responsible for 50,000+ unfortunate deaths.
Prime responsibility lies on the planners of this war and those are fighting as hired guns, no matter how much they glorify it.
Secondary responsibility lies on those who supported it for business interests or sectarian and social class prejudices.
Pro-war fake liberal scum backed by mercenary army which murdered or supported the murder of thousands of innocent civilians including kids are now using useless issues to diver the attention from drone and NATO supply issue.
I may not fully agree with Munawwar Hassan views on Hakim ullah or army martyr issues but people should be free to express their views and we need to come out of ‘troop worship’ and fascist mindset. What kind of society we want to live in where we cannot even question the policies of corrupt generals or cannot make harsh angry comments even after seeing people being droned or bombed with the help of these generals?
For me the status of shaheed or martyr is irrelevant when unarmed innocent civilians including kids are dying in this war and we are busy in discussing some comments about an army fighting American war. Leave the status of soldiers or Talibans to Allah and focus on saving innocent lives.
USAID fame Sunni Ittehad Council (SIC) and Iranian poodles MWM joining hands against talks with Talibans. It gives some idea how things are going in the region especially Iraq and Afghanistan. Syria was just a trap set for rising Turkey and another way to exploit sectarianism in the region.
If Shias realize how harmful these Khomenists are for their interest then it can bring some chance of peace for them and others. If these corrupt Sunni Ittehad council guys start not to use sectarianism to gain monetarily or politically then they can do some good for others too.
Both are playing as puppets of USA/Iran and their slaves in army/agencies/politics to push Pakistan into more and more war mess.
Tehreek e Taliban Pakistan (TTP) are no saints and have committed too many transgressions against non-combatant populations but they are the result of this mess. This phenomenon of terrorism cannot be dealt properly if we do not address the root cause of this mess. Root causes are Pakistan army’s role of a mercenary organization for their client USA against Afghanistan and Pakistani tribes, Pakistan’s soil being used for NATO supplies to strengthen the occupation, Pakistani bases being used to occupy a neighboring country (also for drones) and finally one of the main root cause is the support to these wars and wrong actions provided by sectarian and social class fascists sitting in army, politics, media and civil society.
People need to learn that senseless bombings and operations have created most of these militants in the first place and continuing with this bullshit will only create more terrorism. But how can someone convince those who are blinded by sectarianism or dollars?
Do the designers of this war have any favorite sects or social classes?
The designers of this wars sitting in Washington surely make it look like a war between sufi vs non sufi or shia/barelvi vs deobandi/ahl e hadith/wahabi sects or between liberals and conservatives or moderates and extremists or between other social class groupsbut in actual they don’t share even a little bit of sympathy for anyone.
All they know is to exploit fault lines which they are doing. i agree that IK seems to be the only major leader who has some sort of idea what is going on with this war or in the region.
The unfortunate part is that their dollar slaves in Pakistan are also toeing their line despite seeing all the destruction. Another dangerous element of this war is Khomenist’s direct and indirect support which is also not helping the cause. They think they can go on for long with their sectarian imperialism but in actual they are destroying the future of not only Sunnis or others they don’t like but most importantly they are harming the interests of people they claim to represent i.e Shias in the region.
Its time to start acting like thinking humans not some sheep or insects. We need to come out of this self-destructive mode.
I just saw new reports saying that Tehrik e Taliban (TTP) leader Hakeem ullah Mehsud has been killed in recent drone strikes in tribal areas of Pakistan.
Hakim ullah was/is one of the most controversial figures of our country. His death like this might have made some people happy and some people are surely confused about the legitimacy or moral justification of extra-judicial killings.
In my view if you think that extra-judicial killing of Hakeem ullah Mehsud through a drone strike is a good news then you are part of the terrorism problem Pakistan is into. These strikes are not only an attack on Pakistan’s sovereignty but they are one of the main reasons behind the mess.
They did similar with Naik Muhammad when he was willing to talk which motivated Bait ullah Mehsud to start his war, then same happened with Bait ullah Mehsud when there was a momentum of talks which paved way for Hakeem ullah Mehsud and now Hakeem ullah Mehsud got the same treatment when he was willing to talk. Hakeem ullah was not a saint (In fact I think of him as an unwanted product of this war mess) but killing him like this will only create more like him and not to forget the legitimacy USA will try to get for its drone strikes war crimes through this.
It seems USA and its puppets in Pakistan along with Khomenists in establishment and civil society don’t want Pakistan to come out of this war mess.
On one hand both USA and Iran are talking to Talibans using back doors but for Pakistan, they have a different plan. They want Pakistan to remain stuck in this war and internally implode.
Transgressions were done from both sides (army and talibans) but we need ot address the root cause first. Root cause lies in military operations and army’s support to USA war against afghanistan/pakistani tribal areas. I am not sure how many people will keep their sanity when they will be bombed day and night mercilessly especially when they know that different sections of society support these insane bombings by army and drones due to their sectarian and social class prejudices. Imagine the trauma for kids who were and are growing into this mess. these kids can be used by anyone for anything as they have only seen senseless death and destructions through out their lives especially at a time when thier minds and thought processes are taking shape.
How many suicide attacks were there before this war? How many militant taliban groups were operating as TTP before this war and military operations?
Really disappointed with the killing of 81 innocent people in a suicide attack on a church in Peshawar.
I Strongly condemn the church attack. If I am in a place where I see the person who planned this attack and I have a gun in my hand then I will surely put all the bullets in his head. But I am also not mad enough or driven by social class or sectarian hatred that I will vent all my hatred towards tribal people and demand senseless military operations in tribal areas to hunt down “suspects”.
It looks interesting to see whenever there is a momentum of talks, incidents like attacks on minorities or on senior govt./military officers speed up and all pro-war lobbies and sectarian/social class fascists speed up their pro-war propaganda. It seems they are not interested in ending this mess but are more interested in fighting an imported war. They need to know that a war designed on sectarian and social class fascism cannot bring peace.
Military operations especially where aerial bombings and heaver artillery are involved are bound to result in loss of innocent civilians including children. This will eventually produce more hatred especially when these attacks are backed by sectarian and social class fascists in establishment, civil society, media and politics.
This is what is happening from 9-10 years. Its time to think for those who are living in war trauma for a long time and try to bring them towards normal life.
First step will be to come out of this war and stop drones by any means necessary including shooting them down.
Second step will be to start dialogues with tribal elders and groups who are willing to talk. Then with the help of these elders and groups try to bring others on table as well but if they show resistance then, with the help of tribal elders and groups who are in favor of talks, look for other means.
Similarly, its finally time to see which groups and individuals from so called settled areas side want Pakistan to remain in this war.
In my view elements who don’t want Pakistan to come out of this war from both militant’s side or from establishment/political parties side have same source of power. Militant groups which are not in any kind of mood for talks are mostly linked with India or Iranian/American backed northern alliance.
Similarly, Khomenists and American puppets are keeping up their pressure for more and more war. Their only apparent point of difference is in Syria and that to doesn’t seem to affect their collusion in Afghanistan, Iraq and Pakistan.They are exploiting sufi/salafi , deobandi/barelvi, so called liberal/so called religious and other fault lines to forward their war agenda.
One can ask: Why Pakistan is being targeted? The answer to this will not be simple but to keep it simple, we can start with two issues:
Iran feels it as a competing port for its Chahbar port which Iran is building with the help of India to strengthen its hold over Central Asia. Americans are pissed off because Chinese companies are building the port with high Chinese stakes in the area.
It is not a secret how India and Americans hate Pakistani nukes. They have a interest in keeping Pakistan into this war so that resulting chaos will force Pakistan to give up its nukes. Iran always see Pakistani nukes as Sunni nukes and feel them as a hurdle for its future goals in middle east. It even snitched on Pakistan in 2003 when it helped USA to corner Pakistan on nuclear proliferation issue.
Its time for lazy heads in Pakistan to think actively. Need to come out of this war to get some chance for peace.
I think it is clear that PTI can only make government in KPK. It will be a split mandate and in sha Allah PTI will not join any status-quo party for power.
Situation is not ideal but everything is not lost. The good thing will be that they can still show performance in KPK. They can:
a) Eliminate corruption in KPK
b) Raise strong voice against this war and drones by passing resolutions and active protests on the streets or even blocking supplies
c) Strength the system of justice in KPK
d) Conduct local bodies elections
e) Help promoting peace and local businesses to improve employment situation
f) Make it a good place to invest for private sector especially in hydel power, gem stones, engineering etc
g) Give incentives to the private sector to invest in research and development through universities
h) Give results in other key areas which are part of their manifesto
In National Assembly, they can make strong noise on policy issues related to local and international affairs.
Pro-war and pro-status quo forces have again tried to hijack the momentum of change through Mushi. Mushi,MQM,TuQ, PPP,ANP,PML etc are pets of pro-war local and international establishment and only those who are totally blind or have deep sectarian and social class prejudices against others support these satans. Its time for PTI,JI and other anti-war/anti-status quo groups to make a meaningful strategy against these forces of evil who brought death and destruction to this country and its people during the last many years.
Musharraf committed many crimes against humanity and his arrival should be used as an opportunity to punish him for these crimes. If he is punished for his crimes from courts after a due process then it will not only strengthen rule of law in the country but it will also help in cooling down some fire in KPK,FATA,Balochistan and other parts of the country.
We have recently seen some of the deadliest terrorist attacks on Hazara community, religious leaders of both Shia and Sunni sects, mafia wars in Karachi and resulting terrorism. It is interesting to see that whenever there is a momentum in support of peace dialogue these things pick up their pace as if someone is not satisfied with the idea of peace.
We need to see who is benefiting from this war?
It seems establishment and their NRO don’t like the idea of peace so they will do anything to use any event for an excuse to continue this war mess. PPP has launched Shehla Reza and Faisal Raza Abidi again to play sectarian card, Zardari had a nice photo session with Khemenei and MQM is again playing similar cards. Now its time for people of Pakistan including Shias to think if they again want to fall for these pro-war and pro-status quo groups and present themselves as a fuel for this war?
Despite corruption in 90s, it was not that bad and lives were better and safer but now its a mess out there in our cities. We need to come out of this mess and for this first we need to come out of this war and then isolate those who are benefiting from this war. Without cooling down the fire in FATA, Balochistan etc we cannot expect peace in the country.
There are other factors than this war or sectarianism which are playing their role. It seems Abbas town blast has more to do with other things than sectarianism. What many are not highlighting is that almost half were Sunnis and the area is not just full of “Shia” flats but they have “Sunni” flats too (probably in more numbers). It can well be another land mafia or other mafia or political thing which is being portrayed by MQM,PPP,ANP and other pro-war scum as sectarian or ethnic violence. All these parties have militant wings with full capability of carrying out such activity. We never had a proper inquiry about 2005 Nishtar Park bombings or 2010 Ashura Blast and resulting riots (it seems the riot time was ready for such blast).
Also, some people are demanding gun ban for people. For them I can only say that if you can’t understand that its already very hard for a common person to get a weapons license in Karachi whereas a criminal doesn’t care about these licenses and laws. Its time to demand the lifting of all kinds of bans and restrictions on heavy weapons as these restrictions are only making a common person defenseless against these criminal gangs. Self-defense or even personal revenge is a basic human right as long as it is not misused to harm unrelated people.
Its time we should stand up for our freedom against the powers of tyranny. The least we can do in this regard is not to support tyrants and their unjust actions.
Its really sad to see hundreds of people facing purposeless deaths and its now a high time for people to see what these imported war policies, corrupt ruling elite and years of sectarian/social-class hatred has given us. We are in a self-destructing mode and we need to come out of it now.
Baluchistan govt. and assembly is a useless bunch of morons who only know how to grab more money and power. Governor has accepted the failure and there is no reason to keep them on their jobs. I am strongly against military intervention but I fully agree with the demand to remove Baluchistan government. They don’t represent people of Baluchistan at all. Dozens of people have lost their lives and Raisani has no serious intention of accepting the responsibility. Not only Raisani but DG FC and Army commanders in the province who are responsible of destroying peace in Baluchistan should be made accountable for the situation.
And finally for those who supported this system and are still supporting it: Next time when you support Army, PPP,PML,MQM,ANP,JUI and other pro-war groups and lobbies, don’t forget the scenes of miseries, deaths, poverty and hopelessness across the whole country.
Another good article by Hamid Mir on how establishment under Musharraf created this mess of terrorism and sectarian violence in Pakistan. My view on the issues are:
General Musharraf, Army and other pro-war lobbies used sectarian and social class differences in the society to forward their war agenda. Before 2005-06, there wasn’t much support for this fake war on terror but after that time they worked
on sectarian and social-class lines to create acceptability for this war. 2007 Lal-Masjid operation was in those same lines. The other thing they did was to exploit ethnic differences to strengthen his rule and MQM/PPP/ANP assisted 12 May 2007 was part of that policy. These things may have helped Musharraf in his war agenda or temporarily strengthening his rule but this has put Pakistan into a self-destructing mode.
Below is the article by Hamid Mir on Lal Masjid Operation. published in Jang:
May Allah give justice to the victims of this barbaric action by state institutions and give strength to the judges of Supreme Court to deliver justice without any fear. We also need to make state institutions clean from these evil minds who plot these evil things against the country and its people.