I really hate myself while writing this but need to write it to give an honest view point.
I am really disappointed with almost all of my Shia friends who support this war. I thought there must be some good significant number of Shias in Pakistan who don’t blindly toe the line of that Jerk Khemenei or Seestani but here it seems its not the case and almost all are determined to push not only their selves in this more war mess and resulting terrorism but also others too. Almost all my Shia friends cannot see the fact they are being used as a fuel for this war by Pakistani and other pro-war establishments including their beloved Khomenist regime in Iran.
I also criticize sunni or deobandi or ahl-e-hadith or other sects and social classes for the hate based crap some of their leaders or other people do (LeJ or ST or Mumtaz Qadri or Malik Ishaq types) but a clear thing which disappoints me is that others have broad range of views and diversity at extremes (almost all against innocent killings except few mad people) but for my almost all Shia friends it looks that they are toeing some kind of deep rooted hate based agenda against others with no room for reconciliation.
They need to know no anti-war on terror person supports suicide attacks on Hazara or on other Shia communities but what I have seen is that almost all (not all) of my Shia friends feel really happy when they know about deaths of people including children from other sects in tribal areas, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan or any where else. Even in Pakistan, they don’t really sympathize with anyone else but merely use one majority sect like Barelvi against the others like Deobandi or Ahl-e-Hadith. The trend is not just in religious maniacs but also evident in so called liberal or moderates.
I have always criticized army for this war mess but those who think they are being victimized should also see where they are going or what they are becoming in blind hatred.
They are trying to eliminate any space for those who want peaceful resolution of this war issue as probably it doesn’t fit into their hate based agenda to settle some centuries old good for nothing historical issues. Anti-war on terror people always condemn LeJ or other groups but unfortunately my Shia friends almost never condemn aerial bombings or military’s use of heavy conventional or even chemical weapons against other sects which is a crime even in worldly laws.
I don’t have any sympathies now for those who want innocent killings on both sides to satisfy their hatred for other sects and social classes. my only concern is those unrelated (who do not support this war or resulting terrorism) people who die as collateral damage but unfortunately there is no way to discriminate one from the other in aerial or suicide bombings which Shia groups want when they support this war.
May the wrath of Allah be on those from both sides of the conflict (Army, TTP, MWM,LeJ,SUC,SIC, PPP, ST,PMLN,MQM or others) who support these mass murders either through aerial/drone/military bombings or through suicide attacks.
Even India never does aerial bombings (drone or jet) on civilian populated areas despite almost 2 dozens of insurgencies.
I pray for the hardest wrath of Allah on those who consider innocent dead kids as an unavoidable or tolerable or necessary collateral damage.
I still pray for the blind followers of this corrupt system to get on the path of justice and peace but it seems we are going for complete self-destruction.
If the hatred is about religion or sects then at least while supporting aerial bombings, we should remember what the holy book says:
“O ye who believe! Be steadfast witnesses for Allah in equity, and let not hatred of any people seduce you that ye deal not justly. Deal justly, that is nearer to your duty. Observe your duty to Allah. Lo! Allah is Informed of what ye do.” [Al-maeda ,8]
Fake liberals (In actual sectarian and social class fascists) and troop worshipers often say that there are no other options than war. They forget the fact that their decade old war is the main reason behind the formation of TTP type groups which were not there before this war.
There are still many options other than war like:
a) First taking back bases from USA and come out of this war.
b) Take tribes and groups who are willing for talks on board (after the main motivation of fighting ends due to Pakistan’s coming out of this war)
c) After tribes and groups who are willing to talk come on board for peace then deal with the groups who are not willing to talk after looking into their individual motivations.
d) Once it is established that a group has some criminal or sectarian agenda and they are not willing for peace then force is the right option but not like aerial bombings or other methods where civilians become collateral damage. War crimes are needed to be avoided for sure and tribes should be taken into confidence before any activity like targeted action.
e) People like Musharraf should be brought to justice for putting Pakistan into this mess and most importantly for using sectarian and social class fault lines to forward war agenda and strengthen his rule.
f) Musharraf gang still supporting his policies from within establishment should be removed.
g) We also need to see which groups from settled areas side or from government or politics or even media are determined to push Pakistan into more war mess for their sectarian or social class interests or for the interests of their pay masters.
h) A truth and reconciliation process should take place as a lot of hatred is there on both sides against each due to aerial bombings, drones, suicide attacks, missing persons or other transgressions from both sides.
It seems war propaganda machine has won and now mercenary occupied armed forces of Pakistan are going for a full scale offensive against tribal populations to hunt down few alleged terrorists. According to various reports, several dozens including women and children have been killed in aerial bombings by Pakistan Airforce.
These aerial bombings are a victory for enemies of Pakistan and its people. World is making progress in space tech, energy resource development, education etc and improving the lives of their people but Pakistan is stuck an imported war.
I don’t care much about the deaths of willing combatants from both sides (Army or TTP) and now losing sympathies for the deaths of people related to sectarian groups chanting for more war as it is their own choice to jump in the mess and become a fuel for this war. My real concern is about the lives of innocent civilians who die as collateral damage.
Terrorism is not a justifiable think but to go for same policies which produced TTP or suicide attacks in the first place is something ridiculous.
So called civil society is divided on the issue due to social class and sectarian differences which Musharraf regime exploited well for the war.
I hope we can have joint protests against military operations and suicide attacks. Unfortunately what I have seen is that these anti-terrorist attack protests turn into a war propaganda tool and this war is one of the main reasons behind this TTP or suicide attacks. Before demanding for more war to control suicide attacks or TTP, people need to know that there were not TTP or suicide attacks before this war.
Recent disturbing reports of political persecution and cornering of opposition parties indicate how power can make people blind. Sheikh Haseena Wajid, Prime Minister of Bangladesh, seems to be interested in risking even a civil war on her road to forming absolute authoritarian regime.
In latest development, BD government is going with the execution plan of key opposition leader, Abdul Qadir Mulla of Jamat e Islami. These current cruel polices are given a cover of 1971 war crimes punishment. A kangaroo court, International War Tribunal was formed with political appointments and nothing international about it, to legitimize the executions. 1971 civil war and persecution of Bengalis by Pakistan army were horrible events indeed but if Sheikh Haseena is interested in punishing the real culprits then she should go for an independent and fair trial covering criminals from both sides instead of exploiting the feelings of grief and anger for her political gains.
Its time for justice loving people in Bangladesh to rise up and fight against the tyrannical rule of Sheikh Haseena.
For many Pakistanis, it seems west means US and UK. For slave minded fake liberals, it seems good relations with west means acting like a bitch of UK and US governments.Even on drones issue, key NATO member like Germany is not on the same page with USA and it tried to distance itself from the issue but Pakistan never bothered to approach these countries to bring some sanity in their partners.
Why should Pakistan government do that when it is run by fake liberals, sectarian fascists and slave minds who are working as mercenary for US administration? Other countries also know that so they don’t bother to come out like they did on Syria or even North Korea which are run by two most oppressive and brutal regimes.
Pak government, army and fake liberals don’t seem to have any idea of having relationships other than master-slave or enemy-enemy relationship.
China and US/Japan/Taiwan have serious issues which can turn into potential military clashes but they still enjoy good people to people relationship, trade on equal terms, academic collaboration etc. Pakistan, despite acting as a slave and mercenary for US and UK never bothered to establish serious academic relationship or research collaborations in civil or military areas. In fact some big technology based industrial projects and technology transfer happened through China, Russia, France, Germany and other partners on equal cooperation basis but still our fake liberals and establishment cannot come out of their colonial past of serving UK or the power which replaced it after second world war i.e. USA.
Even in US or UK, Pakistani establishment only focuses on security related institutions and never bothered to understand broader opinion which also include anti-war, non-interventionist, non-corporatist or anti-military industrial complex groups.
But then again what benefit will it give to establishment which relies on mercenary services to corporatists sitting in White house or military industrial complex which runs Pentagon?
It’s not those who opposed this American led war are responsible for 50,000+ unfortunate deaths. Responsibility lies on those jumped into this mess.
It’s not those who opposed this American led war are responsible for 50,000+ unfortunate deaths.
Prime responsibility lies on the planners of this war and those are fighting as hired guns, no matter how much they glorify it.
Secondary responsibility lies on those who supported it for business interests or sectarian and social class prejudices.
Pro-war fake liberal scum backed by mercenary army which murdered or supported the murder of thousands of innocent civilians including kids are now using useless issues to diver the attention from drone and NATO supply issue.
I may not fully agree with Munawwar Hassan views on Hakim ullah or army martyr issues but people should be free to express their views and we need to come out of ‘troop worship’ and fascist mindset. What kind of society we want to live in where we cannot even question the policies of corrupt generals or cannot make harsh angry comments even after seeing people being droned or bombed with the help of these generals?
For me the status of shaheed or martyr is irrelevant when unarmed innocent civilians including kids are dying in this war and we are busy in discussing some comments about an army fighting American war. Leave the status of soldiers or Talibans to Allah and focus on saving innocent lives.
USAID fame Sunni Ittehad Council (SIC) and Iranian poodles MWM joining hands against talks with Talibans. It gives some idea how things are going in the region especially Iraq and Afghanistan. Syria was just a trap set for rising Turkey and another way to exploit sectarianism in the region.
If Shias realize how harmful these Khomenists are for their interest then it can bring some chance of peace for them and others. If these corrupt Sunni Ittehad council guys start not to use sectarianism to gain monetarily or politically then they can do some good for others too.
Both are playing as puppets of USA/Iran and their slaves in army/agencies/politics to push Pakistan into more and more war mess.
Tehreek e Taliban Pakistan (TTP) are no saints and have committed too many transgressions against non-combatant populations but they are the result of this mess. This phenomenon of terrorism cannot be dealt properly if we do not address the root cause of this mess. Root causes are Pakistan army’s role of a mercenary organization for their client USA against Afghanistan and Pakistani tribes, Pakistan’s soil being used for NATO supplies to strengthen the occupation, Pakistani bases being used to occupy a neighboring country (also for drones) and finally one of the main root cause is the support to these wars and wrong actions provided by sectarian and social class fascists sitting in army, politics, media and civil society.
People need to learn that senseless bombings and operations have created most of these militants in the first place and continuing with this bullshit will only create more terrorism. But how can someone convince those who are blinded by sectarianism or dollars?
Do the designers of this war have any favorite sects or social classes?
The designers of this wars sitting in Washington surely make it look like a war between sufi vs non sufi or shia/barelvi vs deobandi/ahl e hadith/wahabi sects or between liberals and conservatives or moderates and extremists or between other social class groupsbut in actual they don’t share even a little bit of sympathy for anyone.
All they know is to exploit fault lines which they are doing. i agree that IK seems to be the only major leader who has some sort of idea what is going on with this war or in the region.
The unfortunate part is that their dollar slaves in Pakistan are also toeing their line despite seeing all the destruction. Another dangerous element of this war is Khomenist’s direct and indirect support which is also not helping the cause. They think they can go on for long with their sectarian imperialism but in actual they are destroying the future of not only Sunnis or others they don’t like but most importantly they are harming the interests of people they claim to represent i.e Shias in the region.
Its time to start acting like thinking humans not some sheep or insects. We need to come out of this self-destructive mode.
I just saw new reports saying that Tehrik e Taliban (TTP) leader Hakeem ullah Mehsud has been killed in recent drone strikes in tribal areas of Pakistan.
Hakim ullah was/is one of the most controversial figures of our country. His death like this might have made some people happy and some people are surely confused about the legitimacy or moral justification of extra-judicial killings.
In my view if you think that extra-judicial killing of Hakeem ullah Mehsud through a drone strike is a good news then you are part of the terrorism problem Pakistan is into. These strikes are not only an attack on Pakistan’s sovereignty but they are one of the main reasons behind the mess.
They did similar with Naik Muhammad when he was willing to talk which motivated Bait ullah Mehsud to start his war, then same happened with Bait ullah Mehsud when there was a momentum of talks which paved way for Hakeem ullah Mehsud and now Hakeem ullah Mehsud got the same treatment when he was willing to talk. Hakeem ullah was not a saint (In fact I think of him as an unwanted product of this war mess) but killing him like this will only create more like him and not to forget the legitimacy USA will try to get for its drone strikes war crimes through this.
It seems USA and its puppets in Pakistan along with Khomenists in establishment and civil society don’t want Pakistan to come out of this war mess.
On one hand both USA and Iran are talking to Talibans using back doors but for Pakistan, they have a different plan. They want Pakistan to remain stuck in this war and internally implode.
Transgressions were done from both sides (army and talibans) but we need ot address the root cause first. Root cause lies in military operations and army’s support to USA war against afghanistan/pakistani tribal areas. I am not sure how many people will keep their sanity when they will be bombed day and night mercilessly especially when they know that different sections of society support these insane bombings by army and drones due to their sectarian and social class prejudices. Imagine the trauma for kids who were and are growing into this mess. these kids can be used by anyone for anything as they have only seen senseless death and destructions through out their lives especially at a time when thier minds and thought processes are taking shape.
How many suicide attacks were there before this war? How many militant taliban groups were operating as TTP before this war and military operations?
Really disappointed with the killing of 81 innocent people in a suicide attack on a church in Peshawar.
I Strongly condemn the church attack. If I am in a place where I see the person who planned this attack and I have a gun in my hand then I will surely put all the bullets in his head. But I am also not mad enough or driven by social class or sectarian hatred that I will vent all my hatred towards tribal people and demand senseless military operations in tribal areas to hunt down “suspects”.
It looks interesting to see whenever there is a momentum of talks, incidents like attacks on minorities or on senior govt./military officers speed up and all pro-war lobbies and sectarian/social class fascists speed up their pro-war propaganda. It seems they are not interested in ending this mess but are more interested in fighting an imported war. They need to know that a war designed on sectarian and social class fascism cannot bring peace.
Military operations especially where aerial bombings and heaver artillery are involved are bound to result in loss of innocent civilians including children. This will eventually produce more hatred especially when these attacks are backed by sectarian and social class fascists in establishment, civil society, media and politics.
This is what is happening from 9-10 years. Its time to think for those who are living in war trauma for a long time and try to bring them towards normal life.
First step will be to come out of this war and stop drones by any means necessary including shooting them down.
Second step will be to start dialogues with tribal elders and groups who are willing to talk. Then with the help of these elders and groups try to bring others on table as well but if they show resistance then, with the help of tribal elders and groups who are in favor of talks, look for other means.
Similarly, its finally time to see which groups and individuals from so called settled areas side want Pakistan to remain in this war.
In my view elements who don’t want Pakistan to come out of this war from both militant’s side or from establishment/political parties side have same source of power. Militant groups which are not in any kind of mood for talks are mostly linked with India or Iranian/American backed northern alliance.
Similarly, Khomenists and American puppets are keeping up their pressure for more and more war. Their only apparent point of difference is in Syria and that to doesn’t seem to affect their collusion in Afghanistan, Iraq and Pakistan.They are exploiting sufi/salafi , deobandi/barelvi, so called liberal/so called religious and other fault lines to forward their war agenda.
One can ask: Why Pakistan is being targeted? The answer to this will not be simple but to keep it simple, we can start with two issues:
Iran feels it as a competing port for its Chahbar port which Iran is building with the help of India to strengthen its hold over Central Asia. Americans are pissed off because Chinese companies are building the port with high Chinese stakes in the area.
It is not a secret how India and Americans hate Pakistani nukes. They have a interest in keeping Pakistan into this war so that resulting chaos will force Pakistan to give up its nukes. Iran always sees Pakistani nukes as Sunni nukes and feels them as a hurdle for its future goals in middle east. It even snitched on Pakistan in 2003 when it helped USA to corner Pakistan on nuclear proliferation issue.
Its time for lazy heads in Pakistan to think actively. Need to come out of this war to get some chance for peace.
I think it is clear that PTI can only make government in KPK. It will be a split mandate and in sha Allah PTI will not join any status-quo party for power.
Situation is not ideal but everything is not lost. The good thing will be that they can still show performance in KPK. They can:
a) Eliminate corruption in KPK
b) Raise strong voice against this war and drones by passing resolutions and active protests on the streets or even blocking supplies
c) Strength the system of justice in KPK
d) Conduct local bodies elections
e) Help promoting peace and local businesses to improve employment situation
f) Make it a good place to invest for private sector especially in hydel power, gem stones, engineering etc
g) Give incentives to the private sector to invest in research and development through universities
h) Give results in other key areas which are part of their manifesto
In National Assembly, they can make strong noise on policy issues related to local and international affairs.